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Re: cyborg man >Little Brother? (anti-govmnt spam; do not read to stay sane)

In a message dated 9/22/98 10:41:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
 writes:

>  I'm suffering from lack of sleep, so this may not make much sense. 
>  Also, there is a distinct possibility that I am full of crap...
>  
maybe just a little of that tunnelvision we ALL suffer time to time, hence the
need for dialogue and public discourse to bring things into a clearer wider
focus, &OR possibly what those 'future' WCs may be able to augment for us some
day?

>  I think that Big Brother is far closer to Nazi-ism than the Cyborgs With
>  Cameras...  I mean, the Nazis took control of the mass media to keep the
>  people in line.
you mean Big vs Little brother's Cams, are bad vs good? 
I would say both have to be freely allowed, if we are in a democracy. What
matters is what harm is done to whom, with what, and then how to make the
voters aware? 

>  I think we may be seeing some of this in the US today. 
>  For example, Lewenski & Co. keep our minds off of the impending
>  terrorist crap, etc.  Many people say it's the other way around, but
>  I've firmly convinced myself that it's not.
>  
other way? you mean Tricky Dicky's ghost is smoke screening his voter losses?
or,, bin ladin's &or some FBI-CIA tail is wagging some happy horse manure Bill
is killing all his enemy's conspiracy?

I say poiltics aren't a worthy list topic,,, because they almost always are
driven by un tested dusty mental baggage that really clouds vision. The
anti_govniks I think are nieve and seriously paranoidal, they seek quick
tunnelvision explanations to complex problems, and (this is the scarry part)
they revert ot our neadro_roots for emotional support in their "logic". Blahh
blah bla bl.

>  I think that in the future, the WearCam could play a role much deeper
>  than defending ourselves against department stores.
>  
I TOTALLY AGREE (all caps is aol neadrobot volume control!),,, but not JUST as
some silly anti gov armour. The cams are our same'ol free and private
EyeWitness, only recorded better now with much more accuracy than our liquid
hard drive seems to do, sloshing around and loosing data.

>  The politicians now represent themselves and large
>  corporations, not the prople.
>  
I'd agree except that the people really still are being represented, polling
extends it. 
(I would love it if the future could hold out for all people some form of an
instant Poll_vote, and ubiquity in WCs_Web would aid the reality of its
reporting.)

>  There has been a large amount of gun-control legislation
>  floating around in congress recently, most of it pushed by Clinton
>  (whose motives I suspect are a bit less than honest).
>  
so hitler was a gun advocate eh? he wouldn'y allow WCams, but wow,, Willy
will.!

>    "What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned
>  from time
>     to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance?
>     Let them take arms.  The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time
>  to time
>     with the blood of patriots and tyrants." 
>  
>  The second ammendment defends the people against tyranny if the
>  government should become corrupt.  It makes you wonder why Big Brother
>  is trying to get rid of it...
>  
I think the argument is empirical evidence of how many people with guns kill
themselves, friends, and relatives,, and of course the silly sick drug war has
all the kids in the streets shooting each other too.
I don't want to waste time here, other than to say there is a gun parallel of
shooting images, the important point is with WCams you CAN ask questions later
when you shoot first. 

>  Anyway, if a corrupt government were to take control of the mass media,
>  the WearCam would help to keep the people aware of what was really going
>  on.  
very true I believe also.

>This might make you a bit more vulnerable to getting turned in for
>  some sort of minor infraction (turning on red), but I feel that
>  preserving the freedom of press is more important.  
true but we can have it both ways IF we find solutions that avoid abusive
ticketing while preserving ticketing of those who cause accidents? It can't be
rocket science.

>  Bob Hoehne wrote:
>  > this very close to the Nazi  method of turning in anyone you see doing
>  > something wrong. 
<snip>
> >  I mean, certainly I would agree turning on 
> >  red when no one is coming is a far less serious thing then killing
someone, 
> >  but
doen't zoom your lens back from wide angle!

>  > we form laws as part of a civilization. All this "rules are ment to be
>  > broken" stuff is quite odd. 
<snip>
>  >  I feel people who want to hide from a camara really
>  > generally do have something to hide.
<snip>
>  > But anyway. What I think I'm trying to
>  > suggest is be catious what you support. This all might be for very good
>  > causes, or it might be abused horriblely, its going to be a very odd 
> future.
>  
odd maybe by today's reality,
but good vs bad will be only controlled by popular dialogue and public access
to facts NOT helped by parnoid rumours. This is an area of future needs. The
CritLink idea a while back is the roots to a solution I suspect.

02
tris

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