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Re: VGA PDA solutions

I simply don't understand what you mean.
As I understand there is no Linux distro working with
the Ipaq 5550 and similar with builtin WLAN and bluetooth
so what is the point? 

Jobe Bittman writes:
> there is are several ipaq linux distros. 
> familiar, initmate:
> http://www.handhelds.org 
> 
> openzaurus:
> http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/content/news
> OZ 3.3.5 will run on ipaq 3800s 
> 
> --- Roland Orre <> wrote:
>> OK, sorry , you did mention WLAN, but I consider
>> that to be so basic
>> so to occupy the only CF slot with this is not very
>> good economy.
>> It's like my first Ipaq, which due to the reason
>> that after adding
>> the extender and a WLAN card become almost unusable,
>> and I never
>> used it. Ipaq came with builtin WLAN and bluetooth,
>> but... there 
>> was no Linux distro so useless... but finally the
>> Zaurus SL-6000
>> arrives, which I will get as soon as possible. 
>> 
>> Your device could possibly be useful as driving the
>> HMD, as the
>> Zaurus has no serial RGB out. I intend, however, to
>> have a mini-itx
>> board (VIA EPIA TC) for this purpose. Has just
>> arrived onto the
>> market.
>> 	Best regards
>> 	Roland Orre 
>> 
>> On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 10:32, Roland Orre wrote:
>> > This sounds like a good format, but I'm not sure I
>> see the obvious
>> > usage. It does not have number crunching
>> capabilites, so the obvious
>> > usage I see is as a file server, but it lacks
>> somewhere to have the
>> > file system. I guess you intend to go for the USB
>> (2.0? a must) for
>> > the disk connection then, or? How about an io port
>> for IDE, so I could
>> > add a few 100Gb and how about connectivity to
>> other devices? You mention
>> > neither bluetooth nor WLAN? Is the 60Mhz a
>> temporary thing or...
>> > otherwise with proper usage of the machine, 400
>> Mhz and a Gb or RAM
>> > it will be quite a cool thing.
>> > 
>> > 	Best regards
>> > 	Roland Orre
>> > 
>> > On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 19:13, Brian Empey, P.Eng.
>> wrote:
>> > > Jobe,
>> > > 
>> > > We have a product in design that won't be
>> officially released for a couple
>> > > of months.
>> > > Its a computer that's about 2.5" x 3.5" x 1"
>> thick in an all-metal
>> > > enclosure.
>> > > Its running Linux on a 32-bit ARM CPU.
>> > > It has:
>> > > - VGA/SVGA out for a display
>> > > - power-jack for DC in (~8 to 35 volts ... it
>> has a 95% efficient switching
>> > > power supply built in)
>> > > - 2 x USB hosts
>> > > - audio headset jack (2.5mm)
>> > > - MMC/SD memory card slot for mem expansion
>> > > - Compact FLASH slot for WiFi, GSM, etc.
>> communications, or CF HD
>> > > - 32 megaByte DiskOnChip
>> > > Its based on our Medallion CPU modules, which
>> have supported USB & VGA for
>> > > 2 years now with no problems!
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > Its designed so that if its clipped onto a belt,
>> the card slots are UP, and
>> > > all the connectors are at the bottom for better
>> cable management.
>> > > 
>> > > It will be marketed as a personal wireless
>> terminal (you could also velcro
>> > > it to a desktop monitor, plug in an 802.11 card,
>> add USB KBD & mouse, and
>> > > Presto --- instant wireless thin-client terminal
>> ... good for call centers)
>> > > 
>> > > But its supposed to be a secret.
>> > > However, we are looking for beta testers
>> interested in units priced near
>> > > cost.
>> > > So, if anyone is interested, you can let me
>> know.....
>> > > 
>> > > BTW: The CPU on version I is only 60 MHz, so
>> don't even consider augmented
>> > > reality on this one.  Its a great terminal or
>> data collection device.
>> > > For AR you'd want at least 400 MHz, integrated
>> camera interface, HW camera
>> > > to display support with ZOOM or
>> Picture-in-picture, etc. ... sounds vaguely
>> > > like the specs for a future model, but I
>> wouldn't want to give away any
>> > > company secrets! hehe
>> > > 
>> > > Brian
>> > > 
>> > > PS: If you are a SW developer, we have 10 GUIs
>> available on our platform.
>> > > That's the topic of an upcoming press release.
>> > > Included is FrameBuffer, Micro-Windows,
>> QtEmbedded, X-Windows, GTK 1.2, GTK
>> > > 2.0, FLTK, .....
>> > > And you can even run the FLTK GUI Builder Tool
>> "FLUID" natively on our CPU
>> > > modules!
>> > > 
>> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > >   Brian Empey, P. Eng.
>> > >       President
>> > > 
>> > > Technical Solutions Inc.
>> > > Unit #1 7157 Honeyman St
>> > > Delta BC Canada, V4G 1E2
>> > >      www.techsol.ca
>> > > 
>> > > eMail: 
>> > > Tel: 604 946 TECH (8324)
>> > > Fax: 604 946 6445
>> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > Jobe Bittman wrote:
>> > > > 
>> > > > Since the topic sort of changed, I changed the
>> > > > subject. I have been beating myself up trying
>> to get
>> > > > VGA and USB at the same time from a strongarm
>> pda
>> > > > decvice running linux. I have been working on
>> a Ipaq
>> > > > 3870 with a dual pcmcia sleeve since January
>> this year
>> > > > to this end. I currently have the Ratoc USB
>> Host CF
>> > > > card in a pcmcia adapter and the two TinyX
>> supported
>> > > > pcmcia VGA cards. The HP VGA-out card and the
>> > > > Colorgraphics Voyager VGA. I have gotten all
>> of this
>> > > > working on familiar - but not at the same
>> time. First
>> > > > off, I got the Ratoc card running well and
>> have the
>> > > > usb-ps2 adapter connected to my twiddler 2 and
>> it
>> > > > works great. The HP VGA-out card works great.
>> The
>> > > > graphics look great and it runs fast. The
>> > > > Colorgraphics Voyager VGA card looks like
>> crap. There
>> > > > is a strange red feedback effect when there is
>> white
>> > > > on the screen and there are disabled pixels on
>> the
>> > > > screen. When you move the mouse, the
>> turned-off pixels
>> > > > change randomly. So avoid the Colorgraphics
>> VGA card
>> > > > if you go the pcmcia route. The problem is I
>> cannot
>> > > > use both USB and VGA at the same time. I think
>> its a
>> > > > problem with the kernel because I have to
>> recompile
>> > > > the kernel to add in 'preliminary USB
>> filesystem'
>> > > > support. As soon as I install the new kernel,
>> the
>> > > > video cards stop working and just show static
>> or
>> > > > stange colors.  If anyone has suggestions, I 
>> have CVS
>> > > > write accesss to the 2.4 kernel for familiar.
>> > > > 
>> > > > On the toshiba vga/usb adapter, I have
>> exchanged
>> > > > several emaiuls with Spyro who is the main guy
>> working
>> > > > on the Toshiba e740/750/800 port. External VGA
>> doesn't
>> > > > work. He claims it will work one day. He has
>> the USB
>> > > > working partially I believe. I would sell all
>> the ipaq
>> > > > gear immediately if it did work.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Thats my experience so far with VGA and USB on
>> a
>> > > > strongarm PDA.
>> > >  
>> 
> === message truncated === 
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