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Re: VGA PDA solutions

there is are several ipaq linux distros. 
familiar, initmate:
http://www.handhelds.org

openzaurus:
http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/content/news
OZ 3.3.5 will run on ipaq 3800s

--- Roland Orre <> wrote:
> OK, sorry , you did mention WLAN, but I consider
> that to be so basic
> so to occupy the only CF slot with this is not very
> good economy.
> It's like my first Ipaq, which due to the reason
> that after adding
> the extender and a WLAN card become almost unusable,
> and I never
> used it. Ipaq came with builtin WLAN and bluetooth,
> but... there 
> was no Linux distro so useless... but finally the
> Zaurus SL-6000
> arrives, which I will get as soon as possible.
> 
> Your device could possibly be useful as driving the
> HMD, as the
> Zaurus has no serial RGB out. I intend, however, to
> have a mini-itx
> board (VIA EPIA TC) for this purpose. Has just
> arrived onto the
> market.
> 	Best regards
> 	Roland Orre
> 
> On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 10:32, Roland Orre wrote:
> > This sounds like a good format, but I'm not sure I
> see the obvious
> > usage. It does not have number crunching
> capabilites, so the obvious
> > usage I see is as a file server, but it lacks
> somewhere to have the
> > file system. I guess you intend to go for the USB
> (2.0? a must) for
> > the disk connection then, or? How about an io port
> for IDE, so I could
> > add a few 100Gb and how about connectivity to
> other devices? You mention
> > neither bluetooth nor WLAN? Is the 60Mhz a
> temporary thing or...
> > otherwise with proper usage of the machine, 400
> Mhz and a Gb or RAM
> > it will be quite a cool thing.
> > 
> > 	Best regards
> > 	Roland Orre
> > 
> > On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 19:13, Brian Empey, P.Eng.
> wrote:
> > > Jobe,
> > > 
> > > We have a product in design that won't be
> officially released for a couple
> > > of months.
> > > Its a computer that's about 2.5" x 3.5" x 1"
> thick in an all-metal
> > > enclosure.
> > > Its running Linux on a 32-bit ARM CPU.
> > > It has:
> > > - VGA/SVGA out for a display
> > > - power-jack for DC in (~8 to 35 volts ... it
> has a 95% efficient switching
> > > power supply built in)
> > > - 2 x USB hosts
> > > - audio headset jack (2.5mm)
> > > - MMC/SD memory card slot for mem expansion
> > > - Compact FLASH slot for WiFi, GSM, etc.
> communications, or CF HD
> > > - 32 megaByte DiskOnChip
> > > Its based on our Medallion CPU modules, which
> have supported USB & VGA for
> > > 2 years now with no problems!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Its designed so that if its clipped onto a belt,
> the card slots are UP, and
> > > all the connectors are at the bottom for better
> cable management.
> > > 
> > > It will be marketed as a personal wireless
> terminal (you could also velcro
> > > it to a desktop monitor, plug in an 802.11 card,
> add USB KBD & mouse, and
> > > Presto --- instant wireless thin-client terminal
> ... good for call centers)
> > > 
> > > But its supposed to be a secret.
> > > However, we are looking for beta testers
> interested in units priced near
> > > cost.
> > > So, if anyone is interested, you can let me
> know.....
> > > 
> > > BTW: The CPU on version I is only 60 MHz, so
> don't even consider augmented
> > > reality on this one.  Its a great terminal or
> data collection device.
> > > For AR you'd want at least 400 MHz, integrated
> camera interface, HW camera
> > > to display support with ZOOM or
> Picture-in-picture, etc. ... sounds vaguely
> > > like the specs for a future model, but I
> wouldn't want to give away any
> > > company secrets! hehe
> > > 
> > > Brian
> > > 
> > > PS: If you are a SW developer, we have 10 GUIs
> available on our platform.
> > > That's the topic of an upcoming press release.
> > > Included is FrameBuffer, Micro-Windows,
> QtEmbedded, X-Windows, GTK 1.2, GTK
> > > 2.0, FLTK, .....
> > > And you can even run the FLTK GUI Builder Tool
> "FLUID" natively on our CPU
> > > modules!
> > > 
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >   Brian Empey, P. Eng.
> > >       President
> > > 
> > > Technical Solutions Inc.
> > > Unit #1 7157 Honeyman St
> > > Delta BC Canada, V4G 1E2
> > >      www.techsol.ca
> > > 
> > > eMail: 
> > > Tel: 604 946 TECH (8324)
> > > Fax: 604 946 6445
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jobe Bittman wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Since the topic sort of changed, I changed the
> > > > subject. I have been beating myself up trying
> to get
> > > > VGA and USB at the same time from a strongarm
> pda
> > > > decvice running linux. I have been working on
> a Ipaq
> > > > 3870 with a dual pcmcia sleeve since January
> this year
> > > > to this end. I currently have the Ratoc USB
> Host CF
> > > > card in a pcmcia adapter and the two TinyX
> supported
> > > > pcmcia VGA cards. The HP VGA-out card and the
> > > > Colorgraphics Voyager VGA. I have gotten all
> of this
> > > > working on familiar - but not at the same
> time. First
> > > > off, I got the Ratoc card running well and
> have the
> > > > usb-ps2 adapter connected to my twiddler 2 and
> it
> > > > works great. The HP VGA-out card works great.
> The
> > > > graphics look great and it runs fast. The
> > > > Colorgraphics Voyager VGA card looks like
> crap. There
> > > > is a strange red feedback effect when there is
> white
> > > > on the screen and there are disabled pixels on
> the
> > > > screen. When you move the mouse, the
> turned-off pixels
> > > > change randomly. So avoid the Colorgraphics
> VGA card
> > > > if you go the pcmcia route. The problem is I
> cannot
> > > > use both USB and VGA at the same time. I think
> its a
> > > > problem with the kernel because I have to
> recompile
> > > > the kernel to add in 'preliminary USB
> filesystem'
> > > > support. As soon as I install the new kernel,
> the
> > > > video cards stop working and just show static
> or
> > > > stange colors.  If anyone has suggestions, I 
> have CVS
> > > > write accesss to the 2.4 kernel for familiar.
> > > > 
> > > > On the toshiba vga/usb adapter, I have
> exchanged
> > > > several emaiuls with Spyro who is the main guy
> working
> > > > on the Toshiba e740/750/800 port. External VGA
> doesn't
> > > > work. He claims it will work one day. He has
> the USB
> > > > working partially I believe. I would sell all
> the ipaq
> > > > gear immediately if it did work.
> > > > 
> > > > Thats my experience so far with VGA and USB on
> a
> > > > strongarm PDA.
> > > 
> 
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